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H.-R. Patapievici promovând cultura română

This guy is the director of the Romanian Cultural Institute, a public institution of Romania, charged with promoting the Romanian culture abroad. The director is appointed by the president of Romania, and this director has been appointed by the current president, Traian Basescu.
This guy wrote about Romanians: "Someone has always been pissing on us, throughout our history."
He also wrote about us, in a book published in 1996:
“A flawed nation. Wherever you look, you can see good to hang faces, gloomy eyes, strained jaws, ugly faces, vulgar mouths, rudimentary traits.”
“Romanians cannot be a nation, because they aren’t worth more than a herd. They follow the herd, to be marked with the hot iron.”
"Romanian is a language we should stop using, or we should be using it only to swear."
"The abyssal idleness of the fuggy Romanian soul …the Romanian spirochetes crawls its way to the tertiary syphilis, clumping merrily within an unconscious body, until the mind caves in: the hart turns into jelly and the the brain, into juice."
He also stated, on other occasions, that "with a purely Romanian education, you can do nothing" and "Romania has a second hand culture".
This is the guy that the Romanian president appointed as head of an agency charged with promoting the Romanian culture abroad.
I wonder how a guy writing this kind of things would be treated in other European countries.
He had been posing as a self-hating Romanian, but in recent years it was found out that, in fact, his father, Dionis Patapievici, was not Romanian (although, during the communist regime, he was a director in the National Bank of Romania and the representative of Romania to COMECON, so he was a member of the leadership of the most important economic organisation of the Eastern bloc).
Given these facts, H.-R. Patapievici can easily qualify as a racist and a Romanian hater (as he can no longer pose as a Romanian self-hater).
Moreover, H.-R. Patapievici had also been posing as an anticomunist and even a victim of the communist regime in Romania. He forgot to mention that his father was a high ranking, although little known, official of the communist regime in Romania and even abroad, in the COMECON leadership.


Numit de Traian Basescu in functia de director al Institutului Cultural Roman, fiu de demnitar comunist, crescut in cartierul Primaverii.
Din moment ce dintre toti oamenii de cultura romani, tocmai Patapievici a fost desemnat de presedinte ca sef la ICR, probabil ca presedintele ii impartaseste parerile despre romani si cultura romana.
Simpatia pare a fi reciproca: Patapievici a facut parte din "grupul de intelectuali" care au semnat apelul de sustinere a presedintelui impotriva "clasei politice".
Un apel rusinos, prin care o singura persoana este desemnata far calauzitor al democratiei, iar intreaga clasa politica este infierata.
S-a plimbat si cu avionul la Neptun pe banii Cotroceniului pentru "consultari", de parca numai la Neptun se puteau consulta in privinta Legii Lustratiei.
Patapievici face parte, deci din camarila prezidentiala.
Comments


peromaneste says:
Ziua buna! Apreciem contributiile dvs. la flickr pe teme romanesti. Daca ati posta fotografiile dvs. pe teme romanesti (si) la grupul nostru, peromaneste, v-am fi foarte recunoscatori!
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peromaneste says:
...s-a inscris Patapievici in mai lunga traditie a pleznirii peste bot a indolentei culturale romane sau este si el o expresie a profitorului cultural autohton?

Nota Bene: Maiorescu, Ionescu, Cioran si Culianu pot fi ganditi ca apartinand mai sus numitei traditii. In acest caz, pe Patapievici il desparte de toti ceilalti OPERA.
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cod_gabriel says:
Patapievici este mult mai mult (sau mult mai rau) decat un profitor cultural. "Pleznirea peste bot" nu vizeaza doar indolenta culturala si are in cazul sau radacini in mediul familial in care s-a format, oricat ar nega-o.
El nu poate fi banuit de bune intentii sau indignare sincera in legatura cu romanii, in conditiile in care a ascuns trecutul familiei sale, iar in prezent este unul dintre sicofantii lui Traian Basescu.
Nu-l poti banui de sinceritate si bune intentii pe un individ care semneaza in preajma alegerilor europarlamentare un editorial in care il desfiinteaza pe Adrian Severin, dar nu gaseste nimic de comentat despre EBA. Deh, portavocea soțietătii țivile, un "reper moral".
Nu stiu in ce sens il desparte opera de toti ceilalti. Ionescu sau Cioran sunt autori de mare prestigiu, Maiorescu e cunoscut mai mult la noi, iar Culianu, sincer nu stiu mare lucru despre el.
In afara Romaniei, Patapievici ... si mai cum?
De fapt, ceea ce il deosebeste cu adevarat pe Pata de ceilalti, cu exceptia lui Maiorescu, sunt functiile de demnitate publica pe care le-a ocupat, pastorind acum promovarea culturii turmei de omuleti patibulari, pe banii acestora.
Cat despre Maiorescu, nu stiu de ce l-ai inclus in acest grup. Nu stiu sa se fi ocupat cu "pleznirea peste bot" a indolentei culturale romane. Din contra, el a fost un adversar al copierii modelelor straine - forme fara fond - inclusiv in cultura.
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )


cod_gabriel says:
Apropo de Pata si grupul de la Paltinis, care s-au erijat de mult in "societate civila" si "mari constiinte", desi in mod clar fac politica simuland neimplicarea, am sa postez urmatoarea imagine a unei pagini din "Epoca dezinformarii" de Henri-Pierre Cathala:



Recunoasteti personajele?
Desigur, Cathala se referea la intelectualii de stanga care actioneaza in Franta in folosul comunistilor, pozand in mari constiinte.
Dar dezinformarea nu are, de fapt, culoare politica, doar pune in slujba politicii (si nu numai ei) un set de instrumente de actiune, printre care se numara "marile constiinte".
Cu mici retusuri, metoda este folosita si la noi, "marile constiinte" putand fi la randul lor dezinformate, santajate, cumparate sau pur si simplu putand practica dezinformarea deliberata, uneori chiar gratuita.
Tot Cathala a mai scris, in aceeasi lucrare: "Dezinformarea exista, nu este nicidecum un produs al imaginatiei!"
Este un avertisment foarte serios, pentru ca una dintre armele dezinformatorului este aceea de a ridiculiza orice acuza la adresa sa ca tinand de paranoia sau teoria conspiratiei.
Vorba lui Baudelaire: "Cea mai frumoasă şiretenie a Diavolului constă în a ne convinge că el nu există."
Posted 12 months ago. ( permalink )


peromaneste says:
Cred ca secretul consta in a decupla aceste curele de transmisie. Dandu-le atentie, le facem jocul!

Pana una alta, ne intalnim aici, pe bloguri, si generam experiente (chiar culturale) romanesti fara supervizare; asta-i cel mai important!
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Horia Puscuta says:
http://grupareaaproape.wordpress.com/2009/08/ 12/vladimir-tismaneanu-cu-patos-despre-tagma- intelectualilor/
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )


cod_gabriel says:
Treaba tovarasului Tismineţki ce are de spus despre tagma intelectualilor. Dar ar fi bine ca acest fiu de ocupant sa se abtina macar de la tupeul fantastic de a ne da lectii despre notiunea de patrie, cum face in articolul respectiv.
Iata ce are de spus despre tagma intelectualilor cineva mult mai important decat Vladimir Tismineţki:

Este un citat din "Cunoasterea inutila" de Jean-François Revel.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )


peromaneste says:
Mda, din pacate, n-ai cum s-o carmesti fara intelectuali. Raposatul Jean-François era cam cuc prin Frantza aceea, ailalti aveau de primit. In alte cuvinte, 'telectualu mai peste tot il doare'n spate de printzip, Saft(ea)a lui sa fie facuta.

Cand platem atat de mult pe carticelele astea la in-Humanitas, nu credeam ca au sa le bata'n galben hartia asa curand. Dom' Liiceanu a vazut repede ciclul re-inlocuirii produselor proaste din capitalism. Sa-i miroasa gura a bulgar-i verde!
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mircion says:
You are an idiot. Why exactly is Patapievici not a "Romanian"? Because his father is not a "Romanian"? Because he is a Jew? Patapievici is a Romanian. He is a citizen of our country and this is all that counts. You are the true racist. And an idiot.
Posted 2 days ago. ( permalink )


cod_gabriel says:
There you go: the fascist nutcases!
I love it!
I wonder where they've been all this time.
This kind of people are the supporters of both Patapievici and (I bet) his political boss, Basescu.
Notice the richness of his discourse and his solid reasoning. He starts stating that I'm an idiot and concludes that I'm and idiot. In four lines, he manages to lie twice about what I wrote.
1) I didn't write that Patapievici was not Romanian. I wrote that his father was not Romanian which is rather relevant when you write bad things about Romanian ancestry. You may be a Romanian because you are a Romanian citizen or because you feel Romanian. But a self-hating Romanian with a non-Romanian father, forgetting to mention that detail? Nope, that doesn't work.
It is also relevant that your father was a communist official if you make a career of anticommunism. A detail he failed to mention for more than ten years of "anticommunist activity".
2) I didn't write that Dionis Patapievici was a jew and I doubt that he was. I think it's more likely that he was ruthenian, ukrainian or even pole.
All that matters is that fact that he's a Romanian citizen?
I beg to differ.
If that makes me a racist, so be it.
Citizenship is a legal status and nothing more.
Being a Romanian citizen is NOT all that matters when you write all those things about Romanians.
All the foreign guys who came along with the occupying Red Army in the nineteen fourties became Romanian citizens. Still, I won't take lessons or criticisms from those guys or their offspring.
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mircion says:
The origin of one's parents does not matter at all. What matters is socialisation, language and of course the citizenship. Hence, HRP is Romanian by all accounts, and Romania being a free, democratic, secular country (despite those like you) he has the right to voice his opinion about his country or any other issue in whatever way it pleases him. (Incidentally, his polemic has nationalist roots. It is the polemic of a disappointed nationalist. Why don't you cite some more useful texts by HRP, e.g. "De ce imi displace nationalismul nostru"?)
But maybe what you are suggesting is that UNLESS one's parents are both "genuine" Romanians, one is not supposed to write "bad things" about our past (which is shitty indeed - you hate HRP because he said the truth). So what is one supposed to write? Only "good things"? Or nothing at all? What if the father is to 80% Romanian? Or 60%? Please enlighten us with a scientific definition of being a "genuine" Romanian. I take it you will use phrenology... The last attempt to allow or forbid people to voice their opinion because of their parental lineage occured in Germany, in the 1930s, as far as I remember...
And how does your point settle the issue about the TRUTH of what HRP wrote? Cioran was "Romanian" (by your racist criterion) and he wrote devastating things about Romania. And rightly so. The truth can be stated by anybody, no matter his background. What Cioran wrote is not MORE true because HE wrote it (this is a point of logic).
Or do you also think that what HRP has written AGAINST Communism is also mistaken, because his father was a Communist? And you think that I am writing these lines because I had Communist ancestors? What if not? You really don't see the idiocy of your position?
One problem with you nationalists is that you glorify the "nation" in the most primitive and mythical terms, thereby providing just one more reason for why we, the others, the bright ones, are so ashamed to be Romanian, to be forced to share the same space and air and language with idiots like you. It's you who bring shame to Romania, through your racism, stupidity and primitive mythology. HRP has done many mistakes, but writing in a critical manner about our country and against those like you, is not one of them.
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peromaneste says:
mircion, gabriel is only making the reader aware of hrp's opportunism. so, cut the racial crap!

placing cioran and hrp on the same level is a rather simplistic move until the latter produces a body of work comparable to the former's.

as for the air/space/nationality we share, who gives a rat's ass? the generosity of human form is a given, just like, say, the percentage of oxygen molecules in atmosphere.

btw, did you open a flickr account only to thought-police this space? sharing photos distinguishes the photography fans from thought-commissars!
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cod_gabriel says:
Mircioane, HRP has the right to write/say anything he wants and I have the right to have my opinion about him and about what he writes. Everybody knows he kept quiet about his family for about 10-15 years after the revolution and everybody knows why.
Only orange-brained fascists don't know it because they only let in the info they like.
I also happen to think that a guy who thinks the Romanians are no more than a flock cannot possibly promote Romanian culture abroad, because a flock has no culture. And he doesn't. His work at Romanian Cultural Institute is a fiasco and, from time to time, a scandal.
I'm saying that he is opportunistic. He's an intelligent guy, but has problems with his morals. He knew where Romania was heading even before the revolution (these guys were well informed, unlike most of us), so he chose the right direction.
Yes, what he wrote about Romanians was wrong and racist.
By the way, if you think I'm nationalist, look more carefully to more than one of my photographs. You'll find I'm far from that.
But there is criticism or dislike of Romanians, and there is racist delirium. HRP's writings about Romanians pertains to the latter.
Posted 32 hours ago. ( permalink )


mircion says:
You are quite wrong to suppose that HRP's work for the ICR is a desaster. I happen to live abroad and travel quite a lot myself, and I have witnessed several events by the ICR, and have taken non-Romanian friends to them, and despite my initial worries and pessimism they were all impressed and interested. The events were well organised, had interesting topics, with well-chosen speakers and artists etc. Yes, a man who thinks that the promotion of Romanian culture has been a desaster sofar might be just the right one to change this. And he did. He is indeed intelligent and the right man for the job. You really don't know what you are talking about, but you enjoy the rather typical Romanian tendency to present everything as worse than it is, as the result of some kind of conspiracy by foreign powers and their 'agents'. Rubbish.

"peromaneste": In what sense is Cioran's work that great and incomparable? And have you actually read "Schimbarea la fata"? It's judgement about Romania is a desaster.
I placed Cioran and HRP on the same level with respect to the TRUTH of their criticism about Romania. What Cioran says is not true because HE says it, and what HRP says is not false because he says it. If what Cioran says about Romania is true, then if HRP (or whoever else) says the same about Romania, then HRP is surely correct too. Truth is not a property of a speaker, but of what he says. Something is not more true, if it is said by a Romanian, and more false, if it is said by an evil foreign agent. You should do some elementary logic before opening your mouth again.

So what am I now? A thought-commissar? A Communist? A fascist? All of them? You should make up your mind, "contraromaneste".

This Flickr space is an open one, and this page does not contain just photos (is the first one a "photo"?), but strong political views. So everybody is entitled to voice their opinion. Learn to live with other opinions, even if it is painful to your little narcissistic "inimioara", if you ever want to disprove Cioran and HRP's polemics. Romania needs to move beyond "mititei" and the quasi-religious, but otherwise vacuous adoration of Mihail Eminovici (a "full" Romanian? - haha).
Posted 24 hours ago. ( permalink )


peromaneste says:
mircion, you ignore a part of my comment and jump on the other. alright, stating that many a thing sucks in romania doesn't require any authority, problem is:
1) you cannot build a body of work on just a critique of this kind, a master's thesis would suffice, at a college in caracal or mizil;
2) a person cannot say that so many things in his/her country suck witout mentioning that his/her own father was part of the reason;
3) hrp cannot be part of the post-1989 romanian elite while deploring the state of being, he should do something abut it. a resignation, however late, could help.

now, mincion, do i sense a friendship between you and hrp? how else can one justify icr's events abroad as successful? as you say, you are entitled to your opinion, but not to your own truth.

last but not least, thought-commissar, stop shitting round statements like "rather typical Romanian tendency," for they sound coana chirita, version 2010.
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3 comentarii:

Anonim spunea...

Mircion you're right! I enjoyed reading your opinions.
I cannot believe that a person like Patapievici is trashed.
His book, "Omul Recent" is amazingly well written and documented.

Anonim spunea...

Mircion you're right! I enjoyed reading your opinions.
I cannot believe that a person like Patapievici is trashed.
His book, "Omul Recent" is amazingly well written and documented.

Anonim spunea...

Mircion you're right! I enjoyed reading your opinions.
I cannot believe that a person like Patapievici is trashed.
His book, "Omul Recent" is amazingly well written and documented.